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fwatcher




Joined: 24 Feb 2010
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:14 am    Post subject: Suspicious pets Reply with quote

May I suggest that all us pet lovers report suspicious activity in this thread if "Report add" does not suffice to illustrate why an ad is suspicious? This way we can all learn and better protect ourselves.

I will kick off ...

Look here:
http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Pets-dogs-puppies-PUG-PUPPY-SHES-A-GIRL-W0QQAdIdZ188118734
Quote:

Pug Puppy - 8 weeks old( She's a girl!!!)

Looking for a loving home a.s.a.p, owner moving

Call: 076 112 0392


Date Listed 24/02/2010
Price R 1,500
Address Paarl, South Africa
Offered By Owner

If she is 8 wks old, that means she was born in Dec. But she has a "twin" lookign exactly like her in Nov 2009 already!

http://vadegossos.blogspot.com/2009/11/carlino.html

Busted!

It's a stock image:
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-5295864-pug-puppy-on-white-background.php

Watch out for these!


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born-to-survive




Joined: 12 Apr 2009
Posts: 145
Location: Cape Town

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done fwatcher. It seems like we have quite a couple of very alert people on Gumtree! If we all stand together, we can fight all fraudsters, scammers, perverts and people with ulterior motives, making it unpleasant for the other users. Cool
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info.metamorphclinic@gmai




Joined: 24 Feb 2010
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Please be aware of this scam! Reply with quote

I have come across a scam Exclamation They put on new adds weekly. All they change is their email address, names and pets they currently have. But I'm warning you, its the same scam. They claim to want only a loving home for their pet/s. They say their in Cameroon and that you can have their "babies" for free, all you have to do is pay for the pet/s transport. This will cost R1500-00. They also say that they will send the pets toys, food, medical papers etc. They sound very concerned, loving and caring. But please beware! Once you send the money to the "transport company" you will never here from them again. Their current ads advertise marmoset monkeys. But they change it weekly. From puppies, to macaws and almost anything you can think of. So please be aware if the add contains anything like the above mentioned. I keep on reporting their adds but this does not help. They just change it again. They change their emails as well but if it has any of the following key words, its probably the same scam. Cameroon, needs only loving home, well trained, gets along with kids and other animals, vaccinations, vet records, perfectly healthy, only pay R1500-00 for transport. Exclamation
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info.metamorphclinic@gmai




Joined: 24 Feb 2010
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Copy of the mail they send! Reply with quote

Hi There, here a copy of the email that they are currently sending to people who are interested in the marmoset monkeys. I'm surprised to see it is exactly the same one as a month ago. Even the monkeys names are still the same. Hope it helps...

Hello, good day and sorry for our late reply. Our lovely and charming marmoset monkeys are still available. They are call Carlos and Meme. Carlos and Meme are striking and extremely intelligent babies. Carlos and Meme are 6 months old. Carlos and Meme are well trained and have a very great and wonderful personality. They are very friendly with kids since they were brought up in an environment of kids and other home pets. These monkeys are very friendly to visitors and very entertaining. So it will be very lovely for you to have one of these babies as member of your family. These babies have the ability to learn so fast. They can easily learn so quickly. These monkeys are wee wee pad trained These monkeys are well tamed and well socialized. They have taken all their recent vaccines. As concerns their health everything is very okay with Carlos and Meme. Carlos and Meme will be coming to you with all their papers. The good thing about Meme the female monkey is that she is able to have off springs when she is mature. This monkeys will be coming to you with their license . We are sorry to inform you that we are currently in the Cameroon for an immigration program which is supposed to last for 5 months. We have decided that we are going to give Carlos and Meme for free since we are not always around to give them all the love and care they need. We do not have kids and there is no one to stay with Carlos and Meme at home and it is really difficult for them. Our main objective is for us to give Carlos and Meme to a very caring and loving family. To have Carlos and Meme you will have come for pick-up or you can pay only for the shipping fee of Carlos and Meme so that they can be delivered to you at your door steps. It will cost you 3,000 RAN for the shipping fee of Carlos and Meme so that they can be delivered to your exact location or house address. Well before we continue we would like to ask you some questions. And please do not be offended ok.

- Do you have any pet care experience?
- Do have other pets and kids in the house that can stay with Carlos and Meme.
- Are you sure that you can take very good care of Carlos and Meme.
- How soon do you need them?

Both monkeys will be coming to you with all vet records, play toys, their incubators, health documents, cities permit and their feeding manual. So if you have made up your mind on taking Carlos and Meme just get back to us with all your complete contact details or better still you can let us know when you are coming for the pick-up. We will also need all your names and address so that we can proceed to process the transfer of ownership papers of Carlos and Meme so that they can be registered under your names.

- Complete names.
- Exact house address.
- State
- Phone numbers.
- Zip code.
- If possible your closest airport to your location.

So do well to answer all our questions. You can contact us via 0023794228000 so that we can give you more information as regards Carlos and Meme? we attached all the pictures of Carlos and Meme from birth till date .
Thanks and waiting for your mail soonest.

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fwatcher




Joined: 24 Feb 2010
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice info.metamorphclinic.Smile

Never ever buy any per from the Cameroon. As 419 is to Nigeria, so pets scams are to the Cameroon (which is next to Nigeria) and sometimes we have an overlap of both scam types.

Why, those monkeys even made it to the BBC (the animals, not the scammers) Laughing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/8367030.stm


Do you have the details of the courier company? The courier company cannot transport non-existent pets, so they are part of the scam.

Courier website addresses will also help to warn others away.
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fwatcher




Joined: 24 Feb 2010
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://johannesburg.gumtree.co.za/c-Pets-other-pets-Horses-and-camels-for-adoption-W0QQAdIdZ187091165
Quote:
Date Listed 19/02/2010
Price R 4,000
Address Bloemfontein St, Randburg, South Africa

Our camels and horses are all registered ,have all complete health papers and ridding equipments.They are both trained for ridding and transportation of goods.They are very socialized with kids as you can see on the photos and they are also trained to work around town.Interested persons can contact us through email or phone number 0737453585

Anybody looking for a horse, camel, dog, bird ...
http://www.cutebirds.07x.net Sad

Red flags:
Use Google on 0737453585

In the above ad he is in Randburg, but oops, the other ads say, PTA, Alberton, Midrand, Boksburg ....

Old ad on Gumtree:
Quote:
Date Listed 08/01/2010
Price Please contact
Address Port Elizabeth, South Africa

We have macaws available for sale below are the list of macaws a available
call or email for more info (0737453585)
Hyacinth macaws
Blue and gold macaw
Green wing macaws pair
Harlequin and fiesta macaw
Camelot macaw
Red fronted Macaw
Catalina macaw
amongst other macaws
read more inform on our web site www.cutebirds.07x.net


Sure ....
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Bradup




Joined: 22 Nov 2009
Posts: 691
Location: Pretoria, Gauteng

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi fwatcher,

Fantastic work. I like it Exclamation
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KatnikC




Joined: 07 Apr 2010
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also beware adds for marmosets from PE
e-mail they use are realpets4life@gmail.com. You get a Invoice from Miller Max Breeding Farm,everything looks legit and they sound so sincere.BUT then comes insurance, they use a website:www.pettravelintl.com.nu, then the so called delay @ the airport and more money for permits. Needless to say I got suspicious and phoned the airport and to no suprise NO MONKEY. The only monkey is me for falling for it, hopefully this will help someone else not to make the same mistake! Confused
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shawautocentre@hotmail.co




Joined: 04 May 2010
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly the same thing happened to me, except they were advertising African Greys.
African Grey parrots for adoption‏
From: Pamela anderson (panderson356@gmail.com)
Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2010 8:11:12 a.m.
To: @hotmail.com
3 attachments | Download all attachments (28.7 KB)
AGG.jpeg (9.3 KB), AGG1.jpeg (10.2 KB), AGG2.jpeg (9.2 KB)

Thanks for your mail and the interest indicated in our African Grey
parrots and sorry for not getting back to you on time.Our parrots are
still available. In placing them on adoption,we intend to get them
the best home. All we want for them is a loving and caring home. They
are vet checked,up to date on all their vaccines and DNA proven. They
are very tamed and well socialized and got very warm temperaments.
They are potty and cage trained.They are playmates for kids and
adults. They get along with other household pets. They are going to
bring you a lifetime of happiness and smiles. They will melt your
hearts with their friendly and playful personalities. They got
everything that you are searching in birds. They have a very rich
vocabulary.They are good singers. I am letting them go because I am
very busy with my new schedule and can no longer care for them. I am
located in Harare,Zimbabwe ,so I will be sending them from here. As a
result, you will be required to pay the shipping and adoption fee of
R1000 for each each. They are going on free adoption but on
conditions that;

1) You will treat them like your own kids.
2) You will never sell any of them.
3) You will pay for their shipping fees.
4) Finally,you will be updating me with their recent photos so that I
know how they are doing.

They are going to come with all their toys,health papers,one year
genetic health guarantee,menu booklet,Video CD's and a scrapbook of
their lives from birth.
That said,where are you located?
What's your experience with this specie?

Do you have other pets at home?
what's the nature of your job?
Please,don't be disturbed by my so many questions.I just need
responses to them so as to be sure they are going to a loving and
caring home. That said,get back asap so that we can proceed. Hope to
read from you soon.


Regards,
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fwatcher




Joined: 24 Feb 2010
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More emails and another telephone to avoid, all the same scammer!

0783356801 is using the following email addresses
- vansharon2005@gmail.com
- shirleychihuahuapuppies@ymail.com
- agnesscronjecronje@yahoo.com
- chantellgert2009@gmail.com
- melvisroot@yahoo.com

Alternative tel nr formats (for website searches by potential victims):
078 335 6801
27783356801
27 783356801
27 783 356 801

We even find a bad Afrikaans translation which seems to be a Google translate attempt.
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surina@itprofile.co.za




Joined: 07 May 2010
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 7:04 am    Post subject: Another Suspicious one Reply with quote

Another ad that seem Very suspicious to me is this one advertising African Greys. The claim to be giving them away for free. Just doesnt sound right. The address also points to the middle of Port Elizabeths biggest township. Something's fishy here.

They are vet checked, immunized and micro chipped identified and registered. All our parrots are DNA tested and proven to have a very high reproductive ability, they are very fertile and reproductive. All our parrots are well trained and are also very sociable and likes to play with people and other home pets We are give them away alongside all valid certificates, and parrot accessories.
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fwatcher




Joined: 24 Feb 2010
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another puppy scammer
Harlequin Great Dane Puppies / Yorkies ..

irisnberg@gmail.com
jade.fouche@gmail.com

073 285 8937
073 2858937
0732858937
2773 2858937
27 73 2858937
27 732 858 937

And another telephone for the same scammer:
078 358 2139
078 3582139
0783582139
2778 3582139
27 78 3582139
27 783 582 139
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fwatcher




Joined: 24 Feb 2010
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scammer selling non existent pets.

Very active!

rafaelvanlee@live.com
rafaelvanlee@webmail.co.za
ray.mond2009@hotmail.com
comfort2ray@yahoo.com
comfort4ray@yahoo.com
healthy.pups@yahoo.com
emperor4life@gmail.com
home.chihuahua2010@gmail.com
puppiesworld2010@yahoo.com
hasbaby38@yahoo.com
cutepuppies2010@gmail.com
bullypups2010@hotmail.com
frank.lezy01@yahoo.com

076 250 1507
076 2501507
0762501507
2776 2501507
27 76 2501507
27 762 501 507

073 767 3185
073 7673185
0737673185
2773 7673185
27 73 7673185
27 737 673 185

082 369 7777
082 3697777
0823697777
2782 3697777
27 82 3697777
27 823 697 777
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petzzee@gmail.com




Joined: 30 Jun 2010
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They advertise the pups as free for adoption.I have included their contact details should you come accross them.


After Googling the address of the one he emailed me I ended up at http://www.homeequipment.zoomshare.com/10.html . A very very suspicious website and the guy's name is NOT RICHARD ROUX but MR ROBERT MATHOSI but the cell number for both names are the same.

Hello,

The babies are not for sale but for adoption
but here are a few issues
which i will like to make you understand and possibly address them
before we proceed,
1st. I do NOT place my puppies in homes where they will just
be breeding and making money without love and care giving to them like
what i do or even more.
2nd. I do NOT let my puppies go to homes where they would
live outside!
3rd. I will NOT place my puppies with anyone who has any
history of child or animal abuse!! and the
4th. Any new home must take time to educate
themselves on how to properly care for their unique new bulldog child.
5th. and last but not the list, i will probably turn down homes that
have a large number of other dogs. As my english bulldogs crave individual
love & attention. As long as you can make me understand that you will
share the love in your homes with these puppies, i will consider
placing the puppy of your choice to your home, regardless of your
location, even if you are not located within a driving distance, i do
consider flying as an option. So please get back to me as soon as
you can and please advice on your exact location. Thank you for your
time and interest in the puppies.

Regards
Roux



Hello,
I am very glad to read from you so soon.Chico and Kate are very
good pets that will like to do as you will say, they listen to command
and also like to walk and play too with kids and other pets.love to
sleep with people and also love to be carried in the hands. I know
that these puppies will be very glad to change a home.

The reason that i will like to adopt these puppies out is because of
my working conditions. my working hours are too much and i have no
time for them since i lose my daughter(Jenner) and also this location
is not good for their living why alone and i don't want them to surfer
and also i want them ever happy. So i just wish you give them a good,
caring and loving home because they are 13 weeks old and weigh 7.5lbs
and will be 55lbs at full grown.

I will use a delivery agency here in Upington , for the PUPPIES to
get to your location and all that you will pay is the money for their
adoption and transportation fee of R2200.

And i assure you that as soon as you do that, I will immediately go to
the Delivery agency to pay for their transportation to your location.
I will also need to know your Delivery information,

FULL NAMES.....

PHONE#......

CITY/STATE.......

HOUSE/STREET#.......

All i hope is that you take very good care of them as you have
promise. Since you have promises to take good care of these puppies, I
will give them to you okay.they can be delivered to you and you can
also come to my location address to collect them.Attach are their
pictures.
Thanks And Stay Bless For All Is Going To Be Fine

Richard Roux
6 Vooruit Street Upington 8801
079-843-0458

This guy insisted on me paying for Carraige so that the animal could be posted to me even though I was going to Bloemfontein. Black African male accent.Advert was for free adoption of female yorkie.When I called he said that he was on his way out of town and insisted on me paying.details are below

Dina is 12 weeks
old very healthy with a great personality and lot of skills.She is home
raised and kid friendly & also gets along well with other house
pets. She has been vet examined, registered,potty trained and
current on all her shots.She will be very healthy at maturity when
fully grown.Dina is very obedient and has been trained to walk on
leash during the day when she intends to go out for a walk,. She is now available and ready for adoption.We look forward
only to a caring home where she can be spoil rotten.she will bring so
much love and joy to your home or family as she loves to run and play
but what she loves most is giving puppy kisses.she does not bark madly
at people.she will come with
Vet Health Examination
Health Certificate
1 Year Health Guarantee
Microchip
KUSA registration papers
Cadillac Leash
Blue Ribbon Kennel Collar
Blue Ribbon Kennel Certificate
APRI & UABR Registration Papers
Pedigree
Complete Medical Records
Sample Pouch of Feed
Toy or Treat
Puppy booklet that will help you to raise her
.I don't want to give her out to a breeder so please tell me
you are not a breeder.If you are not and you truly want her then you
have to get her asap.All i want for her is a home where she would be
treated as a member of the family .I would love you to come and fetch the little puppy if you can't then i'll have no problem helping you to make a 24 hour delivery arrangement so that you will get the puppy asap.I recently relocated to Bloemfontein so if you want me to make delivery arrangement then you must get back with the following delivery info:
Your Full Names..................
Delivery Address.............
Reliable Contact Number......
Please get back asap and let me know.

Morgan

0731320833

This woman advertised an english bull dog for adoption but the pictures that she sent that was taken of the dog were fake. I Googled the pictures and they were from another fraudelent advert. Her email address is:
marykernet@gmail.com. Also in the original ad the address was advertised as Johannesburg but she was in NAMIBIA???

Hello
Thanks for your mail and interest on my English Bull pup. Shirley is
still available. I am just looking for a perfect home for her you know
.She moves on well with Kids as well as other pets. She is pure breed
and not spayed and will come along with all her vet papers. She is
just 9 month old. I regret I am giving Shirley now but I have no
choice because I have come to the end of my voluntary service in
Namibia so I have to go now. Please you have to assure me that you
will take good of her and send me pictures after when you must have
received her. I will be leaving this evening to sign off from my duty
in Namibia, if you are really interested to have Shirley and take good
Care of her, I can only register her with a Carrier Agency who will
deliver Shirley to your home address if it is not possible for you to
come over to Namibia and pick Shirley up.
Please sent me your
Full Names----------------
Home Address---------------
Tel number--------------------.

I will have her register to the Carrier as soon I have your complete
details. It will cost you some ZAR 2500 which you will pay to the
Carrier Agency for her safe transportation to your home address.
Please let me know when you receive her. I will also send her with a
Disc control which you will play and know what she dislikes and likes.
Thank
Bye for now
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seorandburg




Joined: 22 Jul 2010
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Suspicious - 27 73 7673185 - Now Operating Openly in JHB Reply with quote

Please contact me if anyone has had direct dealings with any of these listed numbers as I have additional information. While the ads may be fake I am concerned that if I list details and the owner who is currently linked to the number may have grounds for legal action if it is incorrect

You can contact me at MikeyBrady20119@gmail.com

Mike

fwatcher wrote:
Scammer selling non existent pets.

Very active!

rafaelvanlee@live.com
rafaelvanlee@webmail.co.za
ray.mond2009@hotmail.com
comfort2ray@yahoo.com
comfort4ray@yahoo.com
healthy.pups@yahoo.com
emperor4life@gmail.com
home.chihuahua2010@gmail.com
puppiesworld2010@yahoo.com
hasbaby38@yahoo.com
cutepuppies2010@gmail.com
bullypups2010@hotmail.com
frank.lezy01@yahoo.com

076 250 1507
076 2501507
0762501507
2776 2501507
27 76 2501507
27 762 501 507

073 767 3185
073 7673185
0737673185
2773 7673185
27 73 7673185
27 737 673 185

082 369 7777
082 3697777
0823697777
2782 3697777
27 82 3697777
27 823 697 777
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